Originally Posted by Ralisti

so the crysta:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...tml?t=10485394


was that the only +5 nrg, or can someone explain this one to me

Originally Posted by Jason Xll

There are two identical ones, both q13 +5energy. Even merch value is the same. It's impossible to say whether they are the only ones but they are indeed pretty rare...

Originally Posted by helloeveryone

some item, for example, Bo staff and outcast shield are considered "rare" hugely due to the influence of this website and assumptions should never be taken as facts. For example, assuming that a uninscribable crystaline is "rarer" than inscribable crystaline are nothing more than just guessing. Look at HA now and the past, its more or less a dead town, there could jolly well be more uninscribable ones around.

Unlike Minipets such as Kanaxai, there is never any official statistic that shows if any weapon/shield are rare. There will always be someone who collects a lot of lesser known items such as Guardian Branch, Outcast shield, Bo Staff etc and spending weeks inflating it in guru and giving "reasons" like it is "super nice looking", "super rare" etc.

Knowing how human "epeen" oriented minds works, for example, a simple and commonly drop item such as Bo Staff suddenly becomes "rare" and sells like hotcakes.

Next, you will have people coming in and telling me i m stupid, and forcefully reinforcing the "fact" that Bo Staff and outcase shield is super rare etc.
Worst case scenario, someone may just come in, lock the thread and ban me for a while.

Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

There are also req9 and req11 known to exist. I didn't know there were other q13 tbh, thought it was always the same sword. However req12 rumor also had come to my ears. Still the time frame for those dropping was very limited, about 2-4 months or so... too lazy to check for the exact time. And they only could drop from HoH, so no "shiverpeak chest" drop or something like. They are indeed among the most rare items in the game.

Oh... I forgot one thing:



whoru?

Originally Posted by carnage-runner

Very credible sources confirm the r9 and r11. i.e. A lot of people agree that they both are definitely real. whoru? Never heard of the q12, but the dual q13 seems familiar...

Originally Posted by _Todeshand_

I checked my old private messages on guru: apparently some guy around here told me about that q12 one and I then pm'ed the suspected owner on guru. 6 months later he replied that there must have been a mistake and he never had a +5nrg crystalline. Whatever... my sources used to be viable usually - or wait... I'm just a random scrub

PS: Chris, howru?

Originally Posted by carnage-runner

I'm ok. Your sources are usually solid, and you're no random scrub lol. How's you been? Any new awesome weapons :P ?

Originally Posted by myths of fury

-Because the best skinned shields are only (mostly) oldschool

Originally Posted by StueyG

The ones that you should be laughing at are the people that paid that much to get the first BDS - and now there are loads of that exact same staff. In the case of that bo staff - there *might* be a handful of others. And then we could get into mini pets, and other things - bashing someone because they are willing to pay a lot for something rare = fail. The point was that there really are loads of idiots in the game that think a BDS and other inscription crap items are "rare" and they say it and talk it up in game all the time. Hardly anyone works to get something really nice anymore it is just handed to them. I appreciate rare old school items because I had to work hard to get them. Props to you cataphract for being proud of the fact that you actually WORKED to get something and did not just get the average inscription item like everyone else.